Netatmo Presence Review – A Wired Smart Outdoor Camera with Floodlight

The Netatmo Presence has been out for a few years now, making Netatmo well ahead of the curve for wired outdoor surveillance cameras with a floodlight. It is only the past year or so that we have seen options from Ring, Arlo and Yale offering similar functionality.

Similar to their indoor Welcome camera, the Presence has several unique features that differentiate it from the pack. This has smart detection which will distinguish between people, animals and cars, and there is no cloud service, everything is stored locally. This means no monthly charges and fewer privacy concerns.

It is currently priced at £225.00 on Amazon and has 169 reviews giving it a very positive score of 4/5.



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This is the first outdoor camera that I have had to wire
into the mains, this allows it to work to its full potential with the floodlight
never draining the battery, nor you having to mess around with charging
batteries. Competing brands offer some alternative options, the Yale outdoor
camera is wired but it uses USB for the power, so you only have to route the
cable into your house and plug it in. Ring and Arlo both have battery-powered
options, which are great if you refuse to drill holes into your house but will
not offer always-on floodlights, and will require regular charging.

Set up

Thankfully we had an old motion detecting lamp at the front
of our house, which meant I did not need to drill any holes into the house. It
meant placement was not idea for a floodlight but any other option would be far
too difficult for my liking.

If you are a skilled DIYer, then there is nothing technically complicated about installing this, but for most people, I would strongly recommend an electrician. The installation video makes things look very easy.

Once you have the wiring in place, mounting it isn’t that
easy either, nor is it the best design. The metal mounting bracket to the wall
attaches securely, but then the housing for all the wires is plastic which is
held in place with one bolt and a smaller screw. It doesn’t feel like the most
secure design, but once set up there is little to no movement.

Partly due to my poor DIY skills, but also the design, the plastic housing doesn’t fit 100% flush with the wall, even if it does, it won’t be weatherproof, so you need to seal the edges between the wall and housing. In my case, I had no back box built into the wall, so there was less room for wires, I am probably going to get it redone by someone that knows what they are doing.

Once you have it all mounted and sealed off from the
weather, the set up is quite simple, similar to the previous Netatmo, you pair
it up via the Netatmo security app, pass it your Wi-Fi credentials and
everything should pair up. If you need to reset the device you have to show the
camera a QR code, which will then restart the set-up process.

With it set up in the app you have a few settings that are
worth tweaking. You can set motion alert zones helping you reduce false alerts,
so in my case, I reduced the motion zone away from street level so I wasn’t
warned every time someone walked past.

You can then adjust the floodlight settings. With the smart
object detection, this allows you to have it switch on when it sees a person or
car, but ignore animals or other motion.

You also have the option to set up different recording and notification settings based on objects. By default, it records every motion, but only notifies for people

In use

In the past few weeks, I have used this, it has worked very well. Due to the number of cameras I review, I currently have three trained on my front door, the Ring Doorbell, Eufy E and now the Netatmo.

I have found this to be very accurate in object detection,
it has been able to detect cats roaming my garden, and when I didn’t set up the
motion zones correctly, it detected people from across the street, even though
you could only just see their head.

When it detects someone, it will notify you, but I have
found the speediness of these notifications inconsistent. Sometimes it is
instant, other times it may be a few minutes, this is fine for security but if
you want instant notification that someone is at a door it is not perfect. In
general, Ring is superior to this, but it does, on occasion, suffer from
delayed alerts. Wi-Fi signal will be a factor, but I am unsure why both devices
are good one day and less good others. The Ring Doorbell doesn’t have person
detection though, but due to its placement and zoned alerts I have been able to
reduce false alerts completely.

When Presence does detect someone, the app saves thumbnail images of the person so you can have an overview of who has been at your house. I have static IP CCTV cameras too, and I like that this gives me time stamps, so if something is identified, I can quickly pull up my 24/7 footage without spending ages looking through video. In the Netatmo app, you can click on the images and this will allow you to either stream the recorded footage or download it to your phone.  

Unlike the Welcome camera, this only identifies people and
does not have facial recognition. It is not important, but it would be nice to
have on any future releases.

The floodlight functionality is excellent too, it provides
some extra light when we arrive home at night, but then also as a deterrent
from any would-be burglars. Unlike PIR sensors, this rarely triggers by
mistake, and I have found PIR lights almost useless in specific locations due
to wind moving branches or other objects.

Connecting to the camera and downloading footage has been reliable, but the downloading things can be a little slow. It connects to using Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n (2.4GHz) which is good for range but poor for speeds. Considering this is wired and reasonably expensive I would have liked Wi-Fi 802.11 ac which is considerably less congested.


Once set up properly this works very well, it is vastly
superior to a PIR flood light, and it is significantly better than most outdoor
cameras due to its person detection and wired connectivity. In particular, I
have had absolutely no false positives from things like moving branches and shadows,
whereas with other, less smart products, I quite frequently have to limit
notifications due to getting pestered every time the wind picks up.

Being wired into the mains makes it a nightmare to install,
and the back box feels a little lightweight, but a competent DIYer or
professional installer should be able to install this and weather proof it with
no problems.

I have limited experience with wired cameras, with the Yale Smart Living All in One Outdoor Camera being the only other one I have done. They are quite different products too, the Yale is extremely easy to install as long as you can find a way to route the cable into your house, however, it lacks the intelligent features of this, and its floodlight is nowhere near as powerful.

The Ring Floodlight is the closest competitor, and cheaper
too, it appears to have similar issues with the installation being flush, and
some people have problems with the WiFi range. However the big difference is
that you will need a subscription, so the Netatmo maybe more expensive
initially, but should work out cheaper in the long term.

Netatmo Presence Review

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Tricky for amateurs to install, but this smart floodlight security camera offers superior object detect and security than many competing products



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